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I really don't understand why some posters are going through contortions about what they will do without a count in game end situations to distort their guesses into something besides a guess when there is a very simple solution, which I believe was mentioned dozens of posts ago.
When in the end game situation, if youaren't responsible for a count, simply count as a backstop to the official timer until you know the clock actually started.
Am I missing something here?
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