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Originally Posted by PAlbc
You say both it's the GM's incompetence and that you would tell both coaches you would wait. So if some poor guy getting $30 to be a game manager is actually there it's not your problem, but if there isn't you'll wait. Why couldn't you wait in both cases?
I'm going to ask you point blank. If you are legally not allowed to do anything other than:
"Sir, the ref has asked to have you removed. Please come with me."
"No, F off. Suck my ----" (words the gentleman used last night).
"Fine, I'm calling the police."
Call to police is made, and GM and AD stand there (continuing to ask him to leave) and wait.
The whole point of the ejection is to punish them by not being able to watch the game in question, which they still get to do since they refuse to leave and you restarted play. Stand at the table for 1 minute, they guy will be pressured to leave (most likely by the visiting team coach, and his son who was on the team). Problem solved, unruly fan gone, situation diffused.
So what would you have them do? You say it's incompetence, so what is your solution? Or are you just going to go with the "it's not my problem" route? Your decision caused this problem so you should have some idea how to solve it if you say they are incompetent. It's rather sad if you don't understand (or care) that your decision forces someone else to have to deal with the repercussions.
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No, the point of the ejection is to remove a cancer from the gym. I'm not punishing anyone.
The reason I'm not waiting is because waiting is my last resort. If there's GM to handle it, this is their job. My job is what's on the court, and I'm only having the fan removed because he's affecting the job on the court (due to one or more of a variety of behavioral issues). If GM isn't capable of resolving the situation, due to their nonexistence or their incompetence, then sure, I'll hold up the game to help them do their job.
The fact is, I've never seen a GM staff incapable of carrying this out. The fact that this guy sat their waiting for police to arrive tells me he didn't respect the GM at all. I hope he was charged with trespassing when they arrived.
If GM isn't willing or able to back the officials with an unruly fan, you're going to find that it becomes harder and harder to get officials in the long run.