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Originally posted by whitecane12
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Originally posted by Rich Ives
"rules state that on the 4th visit that pitcher must be removed and cannot return to the mound in that game."
The rule does NOT have the last phrase in it.
If he comes back, he is a new pitcher.
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Are you saying that on the fourth visit the pitcher can then be moved to another position and then return later as a new pitcher and is then entitled to another four visits in that same game before being removed again...and again...? Tell me it ain't so!
Do you realize the chaos that would create? Rule 8.06 (b) of the Little League rules states, "A manager or coach may come out three times in one game to visit with the pitcher, but the fourth time out, the pitcher must be removed as a pitcher."
No where does it state that if that same pitcher is brought back in the same game he is a new pitcher. Its still the same pitcher and the same game so the fourth visit is his last one for that game. How can it be any other way?
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Nowhere does it say in the rule you quoted, 8.06, that the pitcher may not return as pitcher. It says must be removed. That doesn't mean he cannot come back and pitch if he is the starting pitcher and moved to another position. In your situation, I don't believe a visit is charged because the pitcher was being replaced. The new pitcher now has 3 visits, and on the fourth he too must be removed.
And I believe Rich is right in saying he is considered to be a new pitcher, and is entitled his 3 visits (2 in one inning) before he must be removed again. But as you probably know, he can only come back once per inning. And you can only allow 2 visits per inning to a pitcher. Rule 8.06 in it's first sentence states, "this rule, which applies to EACH pitcher who enters the game."
See 3.03(c)
[Edited by thumpferee on Jul 3rd, 2003 at 05:16 AM]