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Originally Posted by UmpireErnie
(NFHS)
2-50-1 is definition of runner: "...an offensive player who is advancing to, touching or returning to a base."
2-50-2 is definition of retired runner: "..a player who has scored, or who has been put out and who is still in live ball territory."
So i think the reasoning here is when teammate picked her up and sent her returning to a base she is now by definition a runner again and so is out under 8-6-5. No need to wait till she touches home.
In ASA there is no definition of a "Retired runner". However in 8-7-E Exception it states that in this specific situation the ball is dead at the time of the teammate assistance and all runners return to base occupied at time of the assistance. The runner who had missed home and was illegally assisted is out.
Note in ASA this is only time when illegal physical assistance is a dead ball it normally is assisted runner out and ball remains alive and in play.
In effect looks like only real difference between NFHS and ASA is that if this happens in ASA we kill the ball and in NFHS we keep it alive. Either way the assisted player who missed home is out when illegally assisted.
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I am going to disagree on this. This is a complicated ruling, however a few things to consider.
The runner is said to have touched the plate when she passes the plate. Since we are talking about home plate, the run is said to have scored. The only way a runner who is deemed to have scored can be put out is if the defense appeals that she left early or she missed a base. Since she had passed the plate, and by rule is deemed to have touched the plate, the she is now defined as a retired runner. There is nothing in the rulebook against helping a retired runner. This is no different then a play when the runner slides into home and misses the plate. The only way she can be put out is by an appeal that she missed the base.
The assistance is not illegal in this case.
8-3-4, 8-6-9