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Originally Posted by BayStateRef
There is a key difference between the penalty for adding a name to the book and an excessive time out. The first is penalized "when it occurs" and the second "when discovered."
There are many rules and situations where it is "too late" to penalize. The scorer failed to notice the illegal entry. That player did not score or commit a foul, so his presence was not officially recognized. It seems to me the interpretation is in line with the rule (10-1 Penalty) that makes a distinction between "when it occurs" and "when discovered."
Look at the case play 10.1.2, which says that if the name is added late to the book and the ball is made live without the technical foul being assessed, "it is too late to penalize."
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You completely missed the point.
The fact that a team member who enters the game isn't properly on the team roster must be discovered before it can be penalized. The time of that discovery isn't up to the officials. It is solely upon the scorer. If the scorer does his job correctly, this should be caught when the team member reports as a substitute. If the scorer screws up and the kid goes into the game and then leaves prior to the infraction being detected that isn't the fault of either the game officials or the opposing team.
The problem with the NFHS Case Play ruling is that it makes it too easy for the home scorer to cheat when the infraction is by the home team. All that he has to do is wait until the kid is out of the game to inform the officials and there is no penalty. That's wrong!
As for the rest of your post, who is going to add a name to the book and fail to properly assess a T at that time? Not going to happen.
The only way that I'm ok with no penalty is if the coach withdraws the kid after he reports and is informed that he isn't on the roster. There used to be a description of that in the NFHS Simplified & Illustrated book. No penalty if he doesn't play.
Once he plays, the ruling must be consistent and not depend upon whether he fouls, scores, or gets a rebound. If he enters with 10 seconds remaining in the 2nd qtr and scores a basket as time expires in the half, what are you going to do--where do the points get recorded? Absolutely silly and wrong ruling by the NFHS author.