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Old Thu Jun 19, 2003, 02:42pm
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Re: Re: Camron, if you look................

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Originally posted by Camron Rust


I'd be willing to bet that they know a heck of a lot more about basketball than just about anyone here. Further, I'd bet that they take the input of Hank Nichols and other officiating leaders very seriously.

Of course, we were talking about HS official under HS rules.

Back to the original topic...
Actually Camron, my comments were not just about NF Committees. The term "Do not be a rulebook official," was from a camp that was run by a D1 Official. All the camps I have attended were for college and HS evaluation. I just used a HS reference, when I could easily do the same for the. The NCAA has no casebook for God sake!! So this really was a general statement and as far as I knew the NF of mostly coaches and administrators. In the NCAA Rulebook it is clear the background or at least the representation of the individuals. And 100% are represented by schools from Div 1-3. It is very possible that there are a couple of officials in on the board, and be an actual official. Rick Hartzell is a Division 1 Official and is the Athletic Director of Northern Iowa. So it is possible that he could represent (not currently on the board) his school and add a tremendous amount of incite with his officiating background and experience (I do not know the man, but it is a possiblity).


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Originally posted by Camron Rust

If that's not enough info for you nothing will convince you that you were wrong in claiming people other than officials are changing/writing the rules.
Another thing you need to be aware of Camron, you say all these things about who are officials and who are not officials but it does not mean they represent the interests of official the best way. Mary Struckoff was an Asst. Executive Director with the IHSA and if you here people talk about her, her name is mud. You would have thought that she pissed off every single official in the state. Under her watch she changed (not her personally I am sure) the rating system and changed how official got playoff games in all sports. This pissed off almost all the veterans that I know and many assignors and other officials that had some influence. I personally never had a problem with anything she did, but just talk to almost any official and it is negative. I told someone about some of the changes that might come in with mechanics and coverage and the first thing this official said, "it must be something Mary did." And it was not in the most kind of tone. So whatever relationship she had with official in this state, it was not seen as a good one. And you can ask any official and hear that in their voice from Illinois and see in on their face. So the point is that just because you are an official, does not mean that you represent officials or make rules that are easily enforced or do not come without major opposition when we enforce them. I just feel that if you have more official, you can have better rules written and more common sense in the rules when explained. And for this board to put "moving screen," in the POEs for the past few years is ridiculous. Excuse me if I would think that language would come from coaches, officials should know better. Because that term is the first thing coaches yell regardless of contact on all screens they see. I can understand that it is an explaining tool, but to describe an Illegal screen as a "moving screen" in the rulebook only makes our job harder. But then again this is just my opinion. You might have a different point of view. Either way the rules are not accepted by everyone that views them at the beginning of the year and we have found on tapes rules that were out right wrong. I can think of an "over and back" play on a throw-in on the last tape that the NF said was a violation, when the rulebook suggests otherwise. But then again, the decisions they make are above scrutiny.

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