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Originally Posted by Rich1
Count me in with those who have an intentional foul to go along with the T. By rule, if the player is not making a play on the ball it is an intentional foul. I see the defender grab the dribbler from behind with both hands almost in the fashion of a bear hug. I see no problem with how it was called and probably would have called it the same if I were there. Also note, that the opposing coach stood up immediately calling for the flagrant so others saw it that way when it happened as well (I know several of you will want to blast that statement with some comment about coaches dictating calls but I am ony including it to demonstrate that it was seen that way by him). And, any T that resulted is to be blamed on the player. It does not matter why he disagrees with the call or how bad a call may be a player should never comment or demonstrate in an unsporting manner.
Finally, for any of us to question the honesty and credibility of other officials is unprofessional and counter productive. I don't know one guy nor have I heard of one game from my area where an official cheated. As they like to say in grade school, when you point a finger at someone there are four pointing back at you.
I hope in the future some of you more regular posters can stop trying so hard to find fault with others and stick to discussing / debating rules and situations. I enjoy coming to the forum to learn from each of you but find it hard to wade through the constant negativity of some posters.
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Rich1:
I am piggy backing onto your post because your first paragraph describes pretty accurately why B1's Personal Foul could be seen as an Intentional PF. And to be honest, we are watching the video on a small screen and not at quite the angle that the T saw it in real time and in full size.
This game was a non-league game for both schools. Lorain H.S. is in the Lake Erie League in the OhioHSAA's Northeast District, and Norwalk H.S. is in the Northern Ohio League in the the OhioHSAA's Northwest District. I do not know any of the officials in the game and this is the first time I have seen either of them.
As far as the Northern Ohio League is concerned I do not know if these officials were assigned by the league commissioner or by the Norwalk H.S. athletic director. The vast majority of leagues in Ohio only assign their member schools' league games and the member schools' then assign their own officials for their home non-league games. And whether this is the case in the NOL or not, in the vast majority of leagues the only way that an official can get league assignments from commissioners is if they have been recommended by at least one coach in the league: no recommendation by a coach, means a commissioner cannot assign him games in that league. Welcome to Ohio (and Michigan for that matter too).
MTD, Sr.