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In response to the second part of your question: you cannot play with eight. Ten players are required. A team may "play short", with nine, if, and only if an open slot is kept at the tenth position, and an "out" is taken each time that slot comes up. A team may start with nine, or may reduce to nine during the game. If any "rostered" player shows up, that player must go into the open slot, returning the number to ten. If on the other hand, a team starts with eleven, including the Extra Player, that team must maintain eleven throughout the game and finish with eleven. Refer to ASA Rules 4-1d; 4-4-A; 5-4-H; 5-4-J. Hope this has been helpful to you.