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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
1) Well, now you have a good pre-game topic of discussion for all the new guys your work with to make sure they know the throw-in/BC rule.
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When your partner is late and you gotta spend the first ten minutes checking pictures of the teams there's no time to go through particular violations. Besides, why would you think this would be acceptable to such a person when he's not willing to consider your points during the game? Going over the rules as a "pre-game" seems just as condescending.
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
2) You used the word "apparently". Also, nobody told you to let the coach get screwed and have your partner explain the call 2-3 plays later. I specifically said to let your partner explain HIS call, and THEN move on with the game.
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The word was used to describe what my partner saw, and what my partner saw was what I considered to be actual as I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
The concern that I had going forward from this play was not giving the coach the opportunity to possibly correct the call by conferring with my partner.
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If it was me in your position and the coach was so inconsolable I would have said "Well Bob, he might have missed that one. We'll talk about what he saw after the game." Any response from me from that point on would have been "Let it go" or "We're moving on." I'm not letting a coach act an a$$ over a call that might have or apparently has been missed.
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He wasn't "inconsolable." In fact he was quite understanding, but his immediate reaction was quite heated. He responded by saying: "That's not a backcourt violation; he didn't gain possession until he was in the backcourt; you gotta change that call ref." I responded to him by saying I'll ask what my partner saw, which I did, even though I insisted too much.
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It's October, no one is getting screwed out of anything basketball related at this time of the year.
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Unfortunately, you don't know how AAU works. Teams pay money to play in these tournaments, so yes having a bad crew does leave a feeling of being screwed. But this was one call and I don't believe that this particular call screwed them all that much. And giving more attention to the call was sufficient for the coach despite the fact that it went against him in the end.
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And we still don't know what your partner actually saw on the play; you haven't told us.
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Because I asked him with a yes or no question of whether the player controlled the ball in the frontcourt before going into the backcourt. He said yes both times I asked.