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Originally Posted by LIUmp
At the "instant" it hit the pitcher's glove, you mean to tell me that both umps, or at least one ump, SAW that the runners were touching their bases?
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Well, what else do you have to go with? I find it hard to believe as well, but it's their call.
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Originally Posted by LIUmp
With no call being made, did this not cause some confusion for the defense/offense? Seems like one team made out quite well here.
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I agree that a call should have been made immediately, and it's the PU's to make. Chances are, the BU (with R1 and R2 at second and first) could not see whether or not F6 made the catch, so he's not going to be able to offer much help.
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Originally Posted by LIUmp
Seems to me, and I only say this because one of the umpires involved is known for this, that this is a case of being an OOJ.
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What's that got to do with it? There were three things the umpires had to determine here--whether F1 first touched the ball, whether F6 made the catch, and whether the runners properly tagged up. From your description, the umpires made their determination. I don't see what additional rulings and interpretations came out of this that would be indicative of an OOJ.
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Originally Posted by LIUmp
I know the rule, I am just asking about how the umpires handled this.
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From your description, they didn't handle it well. A catch/no-catch call is a must here. Since one wasn't made initially, then perhaps the ASA rule (I don't have a book handy, so I can't look it up) on an umpire's mistake putting a team at a disadvantage could be invoked. The reasonable compromise would be to call B3 out, and return R1 and R2.