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Old Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:42am
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Originally Posted by tif_dk View Post
Got a question for you guys from one of my games.

During the last two minutes of the game, Team A has requested substitution, and the player is sitting ready at the substitution bench.

Team A then scores a basket, which does not create a substitution opportunity for them (only if Team B scores). [Yes, this is correct only the team that was scored on may initiate substitution opportunity; however once the substitution process has started either team may sub players OR be granted a Time Out]

However, by mistake, the table blows the horn and the ref's blow their whistle - thinking that the other team might have asked for a time-out.

After not allowing the substitution, the coach of Team A then requests a time out.

Should this time out be granted?

If the officials had done their job correct, he could not get the time-out, but should he now be allowed in this case, or can the mistake by the officials be disregarded, and should we continue without time-out and substitution?
You folks tell me if this case applies to the question at hand...

FIBA Rule 4 Playing Regulations [page 22]
Art. 18 Time-Out

18.2.2 A time-out may be granted during a time-out opportunity.

18.2.3 A time-out opportunity begins when:
• For both teams, the ball becomes dead, the game clock is stopped and the
official has ended his communication with the scorer's table.
• For both teams, the ball becomes dead following a successful last or only free throw.
• For the non-scoring team, a field goal is scored.

18.2.4 A time-out opportunity ends when the ball is at the disposal of a player for a throwin or for a first or only free throw

2012 FIBA Interpretations [Page 13]
Statement 7
Art. 18 and 19 clarify when a substitution or time-out opportunity begins and ends. Coaches requesting a time-out or substitution must be aware of these limitations, otherwise the time-out or substitution shall not be granted immediately.

Example 1:
A substitution or time-out opportunity has just ended when coach A runs to the scorer’s table, loudly requesting a substitution or a time-out. The scorer reacts and erroneously sounds the signal. The official blows his whistle and interrupts the game.

Interpretation:
Because of the official’s interruption of the game the ball is dead and the game clock remains stopped, resulting in what would normally be a substitution or time-out opportunity. However, because the request was made too late, the substitution or time-out shall not be granted. The game shall resume immediately.

{Canadian Association of Basketball Officials Case Book. Article 18}

18-7 With 1:28 remaining in the last period, A4 scores a field goal. The ball, after passing through the net, strikes a player’s foot and rolls to the opposite end of the court. The official sounds his whistle and goes to retrieve the ball. Coach A requests a time out. Shall the request be granted?
Yes. Even if Team A was the scoring team, the official stopped the game and the non-scoring team could not benefit from the opportunity to quickly put the ball in play after the basket.

So now if we apply this to the OP, Team A scores and the official sounds the whistle due to a "horn in error" which effectively stops the game. The ball is dead, the clock is stopped and the coach requests the Time Out prior to the ending of the opportunity as outlined in Rule 18.2.4 above so with all that it reads to me that Yes you grant the time out request by Coach A and this also creates a substitution situation for either team.

My 2 cents...
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