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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
Is that what the clinic says? For contact above the shoulders? (Just asking, because I don't watch it -- we get our own.)
From the POES:
Examples of illegal contact above the shoulders and resulting penalties:
1) contact with a stationary elbow may be incidental or a common foul.
2) An elbow in movement but not excessive should be an intentional foul.
3) A moving elbow that is excessive and be either an intentional foul or a flagrant personal foul.
Of those, only the second applies to your play. So, that leaves options A (if the contact is legal because "it's a basketball move") and C (if the contact isn't)
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...I just took our State Test...if you answered A or C...you would be incorrect.
Again, here is the question:
A1 rebounds a missed try, chins the ball with elbows sticking out. A1 pivots and contacts B1 in the head with their elbow.
A. No call A1 is making a basketball move
B. Team Control foul on A1
C. Intentional foul on A1
D. Flagrant foul on A1
...also your statement of "recover <> catches" would have also been incorrect in regards to the following question...
Again, here is this question:
Player A1, in his/her frontcourt, attempts a pass to teammate A2. While the pass is in the air, B2 tips the pass towards A's backcourt. A4 recovers the tipped pass in A's backcourt. This is a backcourt violation on A; give the ball to team B for a throw in nearest the spot of the violation.
A. True
B. False
Bob...not trying to be a smart #$% just showing that even great officials such as yourself can read these questions and interps, (which are not very well written IMO) and come up with totally different answers than others.
BTW...haven't heard from Nevada lately...has he changed his mind on Washington's interp of what a "stationary elbow" is?
Apparently even States have different ideas of the way certain rules should be interpreted.