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Originally Posted by Scrapper1

By definition, if the elbows are moving faster than the torso, the swinging is excessive; even if only done once. And, IMHO, especially if done to clear out space.

1) If the player is pivoting with wide elbows, this is not excessive; and if no contact occurs, no violation has been committed.

2) If the player is pivoting with wide elbows, this is not excessive; but if contact occurs, you have to use your judgment as to whether a foul has been committed.

3) If the player swings the elbows faster than the torso, this is excessive; if no contact occurs, it is a violation and the ball is dead immediately (with some exceptions).

4) If the player swings the elbows faster than the torso, this is excessive; if contact occurs, a foul has been committed and you must use your judgment as to whether the foul is common, intentional, or flagrant.

^This....