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Old Fri Oct 05, 2012, 04:52am
Manny A Manny A is offline
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Originally Posted by David B View Post
You got it. U2 looked about as engaged as Obama did last night in the debate.

He should have called a big foul ball - not ignore PU who obviously wasn't paying attention either.
Sooo, batter swings and nicks a low pitch, and the catcher fields it on the short-hop. PU doesn't see the ball touch dirt, and he rules a foul tip. The BU sees that the catcher didn't catch the ball on the fly, and he gives his partner a subtle signal of that fact. But the PU never looked at his partner for help.

You're saying that the BU should at that point come up with a foul call?

First and foremost, I didn't think BUs were supposed to help their PU partners with a foul call in similar situations, such as when they see a batted ball hit the batter. They are supposed to call Time. But more importantly, in those situations, it is an accepted practice that a BU help out immediately.

I don't think the same is true on the foul tip or foul ball. It's like the BU calling a stealing runner at second out on the tag, and the PU seeing the ball loose during the tag. Should the PU come up immediately with a safe call?

I don't mean to be argumentative. I'm trying to understand what is now allowed when it comes to one umpire overruling another.
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