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Originally posted by RecRef
Make that the DC area minus Virginia. The way I understand the situation is that the VHSL does not recognize IAABO as a governing body. A VHSL association may be an IAABO board but the association has to follow VHSL rules and guidelines when there is a disagreement between the rules and guidelines. One has to pass the VHSL/NF test to ref in VA, the IAABO does not count.
Not being a lawyer I do wonder how such a requirement would fly in the face of Virginias Right To Work law.
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I'm sure you know much more about officiating basketball in VA than I do, so without disputing anything you say, I'll just add a few comments.
1. A few private schools in northern Virginia do not use the VHSL officials. They use IAABO bd. 12 officials. Paul VI and Espiscopal are two of which I can name for certain that do this. I'm not a lawyer either, so I have no idea how this fits with the right to work law! But I can say that I have worked games at both of these schools while never being a Virginia resident.
2. Every IAABO board I've ever been around uses the NFHS test not some other IAABO test for certifying officials. It is true that IAABO produces a refresher exam and distributes this each year, but it is not used for anything other than review and study.
3. I also can't imagine that there are disagreements between the VHSL rules and those that an IAABO association teaches. This is because IAABO simply reprints the NFHS books (rules, case, mechanics, etc.) in their IAABO handbook along with their directory, constitution, and other administrative stuff that is sent to each member. As far as I know, it's the exact same words. They don't have different IAABO rules, they use NFHS. As I said in an earlier post I do not work for an IAABO association now, and I haven't come across a single thing that is different.
I do recall one of the vets writing something in another thread on this board about how IAABO used to interpret simultaneous fouls differently than the board he worked for. That is possible. Items that are vague or unclear in the rules and casebook are open to interpretation by all officials. It seems IAABO just made a decision of how they would call it and publicized that. However, whatever is clear or explicitly stated in the NFHS rules is definitely used by IAABO at the high school level. Also, I believe that if a new casebook or rules change came out that was contrary to an IAABO interp, that they would change their stance and follow the NFHS. This should be the case with the simultaneous fouls now.
Of course, we all know that under NFHS rules any state association may make modifications to the national high school rules (shot clock, 10-sec rule, 5 sec., etc.) So it is highly likely that anything the VHSL does that is different from IAABO is also different from NFHS in other states. Those who officiate in Virginia, IAABO affiliated or not, simply follow what the Virginia state association says.
4. Lastly, here are the associations that are listed on the IAABO website as being in Virginia (the number in parentheses is the IAABO bd. #):
Cardinal Basketball Officials Association (255)
Territory - Northern Virginia
President - Ron Williams
Vice-President - Cecil Hurst
Interpreter - Ponce Gerald
Treasurer - Joe Salcetti
Secretary - Nick Atalla (email
[email protected])
Central Virginia Basketball Officials Association, Inc.(90) Territory - Central Virgina
President - Gerry Regetz
Vice-President - Leonard Lambert
Interpreter - Jerry Stone
Secretary-Treasurer - Bert Wilson
Peninsula District Board (125)
Territory - Newport News, Hampton, Suffolk, Williamsburg, Gloucester, Isle of Wight, James City, West Point, Mathew, Middlesex, New Kent, Surry and King and Queen Counties
President - Robert Howard
Vice-President - Whit Rutter
Interpreter - Steve Panoff
Treasurer - Tom McDonald
Secretary - Cornelius Chambliss
Southeastern Virginia Basketball Officials Association (94)
Territory - Counties of Isle of Wight, Northampton, and Southampton; Cities of Chesapeake, Norfolk, Portsmouth, Suffolk, and Virginia Beach
President - Rick Ennis
President-Elect - Todd Magee
Vice-President - Chuck Shumate
Interpreter - Charlie Woodson
Treasurer - Larry Jochum
Secretary - Dick Bowie
Tidewater Basketball Officials Association (225)
Territory - Tidewater, Virginia
President - Priest Green
Vice-President - Kai Armstrong
Interpreter - Danny Doss
Secretary-Treasurer - Jimmie S. Allen
I also seem to remember a board 134 or something like that, which was in northern Va. a few years ago, don't know what happened to it, if anything.
I'm sure we have officials on this forum that work for these boards. If you guys are out there please post here and tell us how things work in your area!