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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Tony:
First: The only personal opinion that I have given was with regard to the NFHS Rules Committee lack of due diligence.
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Mark, when you give us all this information without any rule references or case plays to back it up, then you are offering your opinion, not facts.
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Second, Part A: Go back and read my two posts. Prior to the early 2000's the NFHS and NCAA Rules Committees used Casebook Play/Approved Rulings to define how to handle this play.
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Great! Post those case plays or approved rulings so we all can see them!
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Second, Part B: Initially, the Ruling was that A1 simultaneously established Player Control/Team Control and committed a Jump Ball violation. Then, in 1993-94 the NCAA changed it ruling to state that A1 could not simultaneously establish Player Control/Team Control and commit a Jump Ball violation, rather, A1 could only committ a Jump Ball violation. The NFHS changed its Ruling to the NCAA's ruling the following year.
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Couldn't care less what the NCAA did.
If the NFHS changed the ruling, then post the evidence.
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Second, Part C: When the NCAA changed its Ruling in 1993-94 the Ruling stated that the AP Arrow would be set toward Team A's Basket when Team B's Throw-in for the A1's Jump Ball violation when Team B's Throw-in ended. Of course this was in conflict with NCAA Rules which require the AP Arrow to be set when the ball is placed at the Disposal of Team B for its Throw-in. (Remember this ruling when reading the 2002-03 NFHS Casebook Play 4-12-1 SITUATION which was in direct conflict both the rules and the NFHS Casebook Play in Rule 6 which had been in the NFHS Casebook since 1994-95; the 2002-03 Casebook Play 4-12-1 SITUATION was only published that one year and then quietly removed because in was in conflict with the Casebook Play in Rule 6. This was the part where I opined about the lack of due diligence by the NFHS Rules Committee.)
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There's a recurring theme here...have you figured it out?
Couldn't care less what the NCAA did.
If the NFHS changed the ruling, then post the evidence.
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Second, Part D: With regard to the Play being discussed in the Thread the NFHS rules changes made in the early 2000's only codified the Rulng in the Casebook Play in Rule 6 which had been in effect for almost ten years.
MTD, Sr.
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Great! Post those case plays or approved rulings so we all can see them!