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"Yeah. I don't have my book with me to quote the address, but the note on this rule states that the penalty must be assessed before the ball becomes live after the player enters the game. The book change should occur when the player enters the game. (If the scorer is lazy or slow, we can't help that. They should catch the mistake when the player first reports to substitute in, not when beckoned.)
For a free throw, the ball becomes live when at the disposal of the shooter. So between the first and second shots, the subs come in. A T can be assessed right then. Once that ball goes to the shooter, it is too late. Period.
The same rule note applies if the officials are notified after the game starts that the starters don't agree with who the coach indicated would start. Its too late for any penalty once that ball is tossed (becomes live).
Same note again on illegal substitution. Once the ball becomes live, or the bench person becomes a player, it is too late for any penalty."
Rich,
I think we're talking about two different situations here. You're absolutely correct in regard to the starters not agreeing with those listed in the book. (Too late to penalize once the ball is live.)
However, in the case of a player participating who is not listed in the book, we penalize when discovered.
Had to look it up to be sure. Case Book 3.2.2C Play
Sven
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