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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
Question as this has come up a lot since the game. After the Giants got flagged for that 12 man penalty if they had done it again on the next play would it have been unsportsman-like conduct penalty or just another 5-yard penalty? Or after the first penalty would the officials not let the ball be ready for play if the Giants still had 12 men on the field?
Was there ever a time when having 12 men participating in the play was a different penalty than just having 12 men on the field (1 player running to get off)?
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Some folks seem to think it was no accident that the Giants played that down with 12. That sounds a little conspiracy-theory to me, but it's possible. I don't know NFL rules inside and out, but I'm not aware of any "automatic" upgrade for a second offense.
In NFHS football, illegal substitution is a 5-yard penalty (think player not getting off the field before the snap), whereas if the 12th man participates, it's illegal participation, a 15-yard penalty. If the Giants' play had happened in a HS game, the foul would have been IP.