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					Originally Posted by  Rob1968
					 
				 
				Yet, they allow for a "swinging elbows" violation, by the shooter's teammate, to kill a shot - see 9.13.1, which seems terribly inconsistent. 
So, if the teammate swings elbows and makes contact, the ball isn't dead until the attempt has ended, but if there's no contact, the ball is immediately dead, and cannot count. Weird! 
			
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 Wierd AND uncommon.  I've yet to see a swinging elbows violation by a player that didn't have the ball.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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