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No, live ball and dead ball foul combine to create a double foul situation under NFL rules. The only time this isn't true is if the offensive foul is a delay of game penalty for spiking the ball after a play. In that case, they could decline the penalty against the defense, and have the dead ball delay of game penalty enforced.
Interestingly enough, if the Giants would have just committed a penalty that was only five yards instead of the illegal use of hands (5+auto first down), then this would be a 15 v. 5 situation and the USC would be enforced from the previous spot (if there's a double foul with no change of possesion where one is a 15 yard penalty and the other is a five yard penalty, then the 5 is disregarded and the 15 yard penalty is enforced from the previous spot...even if there's a score).
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Last edited by APG; Mon Nov 21, 2011 at 12:33am.
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