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Old Wed Mar 12, 2003, 09:13am
Bfair Bfair is offline
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Re: Still there

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Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown

This play now requires an appeal. F5 must state why he is tagging (live ball appeal). The coach can request time and also make an appeal without tagging the runner (dead ball appeal).
From the Fed 2002 website ruings:
    SITUATION 19: With a runner on first base, the batter doubles to left center. As the runner from first advances, he misses second base. With the ball still live, the third baseman tags the runner standing on third base, not knowing the runner missed second base.

    RULING: Since the missed base was a forced base for the runner, the runner will be declared out on a force play even though the defense did not knowingly appeal the missed base. (2-24-1, 2-29-3, 8-2-7)

Please note the final rule references provided by the Fed.
Have any of these rules changed this year?

This play remains in the Fed 2003 Casebook:
    8.2.3 SITUATION: B1 hits a slow roller to F5 and arrives safely but misses first base. F3 catches the ball and casually steps on first base, though he believes the runner has beaten the throw.

    Ruling: B1 is out. Because the force play is being made on the runner and is a result of continuing action, F3 is not required to appeal the missed base and needs only to complete the force out.



So, we know as of last year that accidental tagging of a forced runner who missed a forced base yet is standing on another base is sufficient to gain the out. We also know by caseplay that accidental tagging of his missed forced base remains valid this year to obtain an out.

Tony, can you cite any proof to support your statement that tagging of the forced runner who missed a base is no longer valid? While I heard that the topic may have been under review by the Fed, I can't recall seeing anything that eliminates their interpretation from last year.


Freix

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