[PeteBooth]

Originally posted by jicecone

"Hold your call and if the runner gets back to the back before the defense tags the runner or bag, no harm, no foul."

Is'nt the runner considered "Safe". Holding the call, tips the defense off that there is something wrong and a possible appeal is in order. That is the responsibilty of the defense to figure that out without our help.

Our instructions were to signal safe. On proper appeal the runner could be declared out. But usually the runner has returned to the bag by then anyway.

This is FED. When B1 beats the throw to first base but does NOT touch the bag and F3 steps on the bag with the ball, B1 is OUT.

You gave the OBR mechanic.

Here's a FED case play which illustrates this very issue.

FED Case Play 8.2.3

B1 hits a slow roller to F5 and arrives safely but MISSES first base. F3 catches the ball and CASUALLY (ACCIDENTALLY), steps on first base.

RULING

B1 is OUT, because a FORCE Play is being made on a runner and is the result of continuous action. F3 is NOT required to appeal the missed base and needs only to complete the Force Out.

In FED, on a Force Play situation an appeal is not needed. A Fielder need only "accidentally" step on the bag and in FED we record the out.

Another example; R1 2 outs. B1 singles to right and R1 on route to third base MISSES second. F4/F6 in bringing the ball back into the infield "accidentally" steps on second.

In FED we would register the out.

This is not the case in OBR.

Pete Booth

[Edited by PeteBooth on Mar 11th, 2003 at 10:41 PM]