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Got it, thanks BNR!

So punch (sometimes) at the spot but push at the table for pass/crash.

Are illegal screens a punch (sometimes) at the spot & block at the table?

I like to punch at the spot while vebalizing offense. That way everybody knows we are going the other way.
I've seen guys use the push or block at the spot with no verbal "offense" & it confuses everyone. Makes people think its a defensive foul.

Yeah that was my point, one of his boys pulled out a book & clarified it though. I think he was getting an airborne shooter that released the ball prior to contacting the defender mixed up somehow. In that case, yeah, we call it a push (no t/c) & shoot the FTs on the other end.