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Old Tue Jan 11, 2011, 02:33am
Camron Rust Camron Rust is offline
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Originally Posted by just another ref View Post
I don't presume to speak for Camron, but I think his point is this. Is a technical foul different from a personal foul? The action which caused the foul is what causes the ball to become dead, not the official's decision to make the call, and not the whistle.
Exactly....and it is a pretty basic rule.

The dead ball rule doesn't differentiate between types of foul....just that a foul, when it occurs, makes the ball dead (with exceptions for continuous motion and a try already in the air). The whistle only causes the ball to become dead when it is not for an infraction or not already dead for an infraction.

Basketball rules fundamental....
16. The official’s whistle seldom causes the ball to become dead (it is already dead).

In this case, the infraction, when it is committed, causes the ball to become dead immediately, not the whistle itself nor after the after the time it takes for the official to recognize the infraction. If the shot is not in the air when the foul occurs, it can not count. In this case, the foul clearly occurred before the try was in the air.

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee View Post
Let's go back to Square One....

See above.....

By rule.....by rule.... by rule ....

That was my point.
No matter how many times you say "by rule", it will not change what the rule actually says.
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Last edited by Camron Rust; Tue Jan 11, 2011 at 04:33am.
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