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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Unless the player is actually at the bench (and maybe this one was), how do you KNOW that a player walking in the general direction of the bench is the player that is leaving the game.
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A player becomes bench personnel after his/her substitute becomes a player or after notification of the coach following his/her disqualification.
There's absolutely NOTHING in the rule regarding him going to the bench or being on the bench.
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What if the coach, after the player is whistled for the T, indicates that he wanted a different player subbed out and was only calling that player over to tell him something? Hmmm.
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If the coach is smart enough to know the rule (obviously this one wasn't) then he might be able to pull that off.
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Seems unreliable to assume a specific player is bench personnel until they are actually on the bench or have been disqualified and are thus bench personnel by rule.
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You don't have to assume anything. Once that replaced player leaves the floor and we now KNOW he was the replaced player, part of the penalty is that it's an indirect and the coach has to sit. Therefore, we don't have to make a determination on whether he's a player going over to talk to the coach or if he's a replaced player until we get to the penalty enforcement.
PENALTY: Shoot 2 FTs, inform the coach he has to sit and award the ball for a throw-in at the division line.
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Cam makes a good point. I assume it was obvious in the OP that the mouthy one was the one for whom the sub came in, but there could be some question; in which case I'd simply go with a player T.
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The sub comes in, the player is walking to the bench, is hit with a T, continues to the bench and sits down. It doesn't get any clearer than that.