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Old Sat Jan 18, 2003, 09:56am
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Bingo!

See 8-4-g(2) "When the ball becomes dead, no runner may return to touch a missed base or a base left too soon if she has advanced, touched and remains a base beyond the missed base or the base left too soon. A runner shall not be declared out if a fielder deliberately carries or throws the ball into dead-ball territory to prevent that runner from returning to a missed base or a base left too soon. "
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Right rule for this situation; runner can not return so eventually she is going to be called out (on appeal). I was not sure of the sequence of calls, but you made that clear. (1) Finish running (but in this case she can not go back), (2) make awards (send runner home), (3) process appeal (call runner out), (4) determine runs scored (no score).

The sequence is important. In a different scenario you could have other runners scoring, either during live ball or on awards during dead ball. If the appeal is processed last, and the third out is a timing play, then the runs scored ahead of the runner called out will count.

Interestingly, sequence doesn't matter if the third out on appeal is a force out. i.e., bases loaded, R1 on 1B misses 2B on way to 3B; can not return during dead ball. Then the third out on appeal at 2B is a force out and no runners will score.

BTW, in my question #4 above I was wondering is you could imagine that F8 - with a gun for an arm, has previously been very accurate, is an all-star player - - - might you suspect that she deliberately hit Kentucky's red SUV? In which case you would not allow the appeal per 8-4-g(2). Now imagine the hell generated from that call; I think that would be a hard sell to the offensive coach!
WMB

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