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Originally Posted by shipwreck
I am going to go out on a limb further. If the umpires should never had let this happen, which some are stating, than why even have a section in the rule books, talking about illegal substitutions and the penalties? If we always use preventative umpiring and never let these types of things happen, there should never be a ruling on illegal substitutions. Sometimes on this board it surfaces on what can be construed as umpires coaching the players instead of just umpiring. Some preventative umpiring is OK, but I don't believe we are there to babysit the teams and tell them what they can and cannot do. Dave
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Yet the NCAA philosophy on this, as stated in manual is: "Do not allow accept or allow changes you know are illegal."
They go onto say, "If a coach requests a change that you know is not legal, do not allow it to happen. If, after being told he cannot make a certain change, the coach asks what he can do, tell him-if you understand what he is trying to accomplish."
So here at the one of the higher levels, we are being directed to do just that...babysit the teams in regard to lineup management.
Doesn't make any difference to me, it's their (NCAA) rule set so I do what they tell me they want me to do. I'm always somewhat unsure has to how far I should take this philosophy (if at all) when I'm working under ASA rules.
Where is the proper spot to draw the line between preventive umpiring and "coaching/babysitting" coaches regarding lineup changes working ASA or for that matter NFHS, or any other rule sets many of us work?