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I'm not sure why why you're attacking me personally here.
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Dude!!! WTF are you talking about?!?!? If I had called you a moron, or your argument "retarded", THAT would have been attacking you personally.
I am deeply offended by your scurrilous, slanderous, and baseless accusation! (Sheesh, talk about getting personal.)
I just stated the fact that you were mistaken and paraphrased the "argument" you presented to support your erroneous position. Rather concisely and objectively, I thought.
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You haven't provided any reference let alone reference from the rule book beyond the one that deals with fielding (not catching) the ball.
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WTF are you talking about?!?!? I provided you TWO references - one from the MLBUM and one from the OBR rules. Are you blind? Anybody can see that they're there. And all catching is fielding, though not all fielding is catching, so I have no idea what point you're trying to make with that part.
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You want to try again with an actual rules reference rather than personal attacks?
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Read the MLBUM cite I posted earlier. What it says is that:
1. In order for there to be a "play" as defined for Rule 7.05(g)...
2. Some fielder must have possession of the ball
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3. Once he has possession of the ball, must perform some other act which the umpire judges to be a legitimate attempt (even if ultimately unsuccessful or aborted) to retire a runner.
Therefore, making a legal catch of an in-flight batted ball cannot be a "first play" in the context of 7.05(g) because it does not meet the defined requirements in the official interpretation.
Quod Erat Demonstrandum.
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...At either rate, the UIC's ruling of award 2nd is still right out. ...
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What on earth were you trying to convey with this statement?
JM