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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Ok, found it. NCAA 2010 Case Book:
A.R. 88 - A1, after: (1) receiving a pass; or (2) ending his/her dribble, passes the ball to A2. Before receiving the pass, A2 leaves the area on a cut to the basket. A1 goes to the area vacated by A2 and recovers the ball.
RULING: In order for a pass to occur, the thrown ball must be touched by another player. This did not occur in (1) or (2).
(1) A1's attempted pass was the start of his/her dribble. When he/she recovered the ball and started another dribble he/she would've committed a violation. (Had A1, after releasing the pass, which was the start of a dribble, not recovered the ball but rather continued to dribble, it would not have been a violation.)
(2) A1 had previously ended a dribble before his/her attempted pass to A2. A1's release of the ball on his/her attempted pass to A2 was the start of a second dribble. When A1 recovered the ballhe/she ended the dribble. A1 committed the violation after he/she touched the ball. (Rule 4-21.2 and 9-7.1.c)
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All fine, but not relevant. The assumption in that play is that the ball had hit the floor. Nnormal/typical is the assumption in all case plays unless otherwise stated and I don't know that there has ever been a player fast enough to throw a normal/typical pass and run to catch it without the ball hitting the floor.
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Rule 4-21 by the way, is the dribble rule. 4-21.2 says, "The dribble may be started by pushing, throwing, tapping, or batting the ball to the playing court."
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Some would argue that "to the playing court" doesn't happen unless it reaches the playing court....just like a pass isn't a pass until it reaches another player ...
"A pass is movement of the ball caused by a player who throws, bats or rolls the ball to another player."
Plus, the touch it twice restriction is "during a dribble", not in the start of a dribble.
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
So, given the fact there is no real difference between the 2 codes on the dribble and travel rules (other than perhaps the word "throw" in 4-21), I feel it's safe to assume this A.R. gives us the intent of the dribble rule is to include a throw that is recovered by the same player, and thus subject to the other restrictions in the dribble rule.
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