Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Let's try this quotation thing again so I can pinpoint for you where I think you misspoke.
Each sentence here is wrong, IMO.
It doesn't matter what the screener's intent is; only what the result is.
I'm not sure of any other way to read the word "any" hear than the way we have. With the word "inclined" (that I cut out), it seems to us you are alluding to your final sentence, where you'd have a whislte only if you think he was "faking a roll to the basket." Our point is, regardless of whether he was rolling to the basket or not, if he obstructs the defender without meeting the requirements of a legal screen, it's a foul.
Again, it doesn't matter what he's trying to do or if he's just faking it. Even if he's rolling to the basket, if he illegally gets into B1's path and physically prevents B1 from getting to his desired spot, it's a foul. He's not a "cutter," there's no such animal in the rules, he's a screener and must do it legally.
Had I been the only one to misread your post, or had Jurassic been the only one to misread your post, or had jar been the only one to misread your post, or had Camron been the only one to misread your post..... See the pattern? These are people who do not agree all the time on details, yet they all read you the same.
|
I accept that. I can see that I used some terms and verbage that may be confusing and that is obviously not my intent. "Fake a screen" "Revolving Door pivot" "any v all" and a few others are terms I have been taught and I use, so I wasn't trying to be overly clever. This is a type of play that, at least to me, is more easily demonstrated on the court than typed on a forum. Thank you for pointing out what is causing confusion and why. I will try to strip away most of the verbosity and simply ask questions that will help with my need for clarification.
When is a screener no longer a screener? I think this might be where there could be some differences opinion. I am not asking what is a legal screen and what isn't.
To me, obstruction is a vague term. It may not be for others and that is fine. There can be legal or illegal obstructions. Which leads my thought process to look at a play like this and determine if the defender can't "get to his spot" because of poor defense on their part or because of an illegal obstruction on the offenses part.
If a player is not a screener then what word would be better to describe them? I use the word cutter b/c the player is now cutting to the basket.
If an offensive player is not a screener, wouldn't they have the same right to a spot on the floor as the defensive player on a "first come first served" basis?
Ok, so it was like 3 1/2 questions with one comment! Thanks for the help