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Old Thu May 20, 2010, 03:10pm
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. View Post
USSSA FastPitch, Girls' 12U:

Two outs, R1 on 1B, and there are two strikes on the B4. B4 swings and misses for strike three and F2 drops the pitch. R1 starts running for 2B, B4 stands in the batter's box for a moment, and in the moment that I signaled the swinging strike I said to myself that the batter is out because of R1 on 1B, I then called B4 out. End of inning.

If I had been called on my brain fart, would I have had any remedy; I would like comments per NFHS, NCAA, ASA, and USSSA.

Thank you in advance.

MTD, Sr.
As you say, in every case, you would need to be called on it by the offensive coach. And, by rule, the batter is not out; and your calling the batter out when the batter is not out took away any possibility of the batter advancing safely.

Once that happens, you invoke the appropriate rule in every rule set that says when an umpires decision is reversed (as this must), and that reversal puts a team in jeopardy (as this did) then the plate umpire determines what the remedy is.

You have set your self up for an arguement no matter how you then rule, but,
1) Offense was in jeopardy, because you took away the opportunity to be safe.
2) Defense was also in jeopardy, in that you took away the opportunity to get the out.

The deciding factor in my mind is that the BR is not out; and with both being disadvantaged, the BR is still not out, and how can you make BR out when not put out. As bad as it gets, you must award BR 1st, R1 stops on 2nd, and defense still needs to get out 3.
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