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Originally Posted by Crabnut
I think we already got here, but I am going to run through it the whole way just to be sure I got it right.
The substitute batted in the eighth spot. Doesn’t matter if he was announced wrong or written in the wrong spot in the book or the umpire’s lineup. He batted in the eighth spot. He is legitimately B8 once the next batter steps into the box, regardless of who he reported for, and the old B8 is no longer in the game. The next batter to follow, B1, got on base, whereupon play was stopped and a batting out of order appeal was made. B1 is batting out of order, for B9, who is still in the game regardless of what the book or PU’s lineup says. At that point, B1’s advance is nullified, other runners are returned to where they were before B1 got on base, B9 is declared out, and B1 becomes the next batter.
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Sounds fine to me EXCEPT you only return runners to where they were before the improper batter if their advancement was the result of the improper batter's actions. A steal, balk, wild pitch/passed ball, all count. I believe a steal on a CI counts as well. There are some other examples, OBS on a pickoff perhaps, that may allow him to stay where he is, or at the very least, not retreat back all the way to where he was when the improper batter came up.