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Originally Posted by Crabnut
I think we already got here, but I am going to run through it the whole way just to be sure I got it right.
The substitute batted in the eighth spot. Doesn’t matter if he was announced wrong or written in the wrong spot in the book or the umpire’s lineup. He batted in the eighth spot. He is legitimately B8 once the next batter steps into the box, regardless of who he reported for, and the old B8 is no longer in the game. The next batter to follow, B1, got on base, whereupon play was stopped and a batting out of order appeal was made. B1 is batting out of order, for B9, who is still in the game regardless of what the book or PU’s lineup says. At that point, B1’s advance is nullified, other runners are returned to where they were before B1 got on base, B9 is declared out, and B1 becomes the next batter.
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You are 100% correct in OBR and NCAA. However, this ruling is based on a phone conversation in 2001 between CC and Fitzpatrick. There is no known written record of this ruling. The BRD also says that you are correct in FED but that is Carl's opinion since FED has never ruled on this.
The exceptions are:
1. A pitcher entering the game to bat where the DH rule is used NCAA or OBR.
2. A reentering B9 Pinch hitter in FED batting for B8.
Peter