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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
The actual violation occurs when the ball is released/dropped (releasing the ball on a dribble after lifting the pivot). That is all the rules support. However, whether it is a dribble or not can't be determined until the next person touches the ball....same person, dribble; different person, pass.
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This is my position as well. The violation occurs before we're able to judge that it's a violation. Wait and see the whole play.