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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
Well, once it's caught, yes.
But before that, under FED rules at least, it's a batted ball. And a ball that is declared "foul" (incorrectly by the umpire) must then hit the ground to become foul. If it doesn't hit the ground, then the play stands.
So, I think, "ball is tipped by the batter, caught by the catcher, declared foul by the umpire" is still a foul tip -- that is, it's a strike and in play.
This would be consistent with "ball hit in the air by the batter, declared foul by the umpire and caught by F3" -- the out stands and the ball is in play.
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Gentlemen,
Please remember that once a ball is declared foul by an umpire, correctly or incorrectly, the ball is dead. By calling the ball foul, which we are assuming, the PU killed the play.
The original post was "strike 3 held against the shin guard," It never said what happened after that. We really need more information to tell our poster what happens. A lot of the posting here I agree with, but once we have a PU calling the ball foul, the ball is dead. It does not matter if F2 pins it across his gear or not, or the Batter tipped the pitch of not. the PU calls the ball foul, it's foul.
The play that is the closest analogy to the first post would be a bunt by the BR that is foul then goes fair. But if the PU sees the ball go foul and calls it foul before it is touched in foul ground, what do you have? You have a dead ball, the bunt is foul, even if the PU blew the call. You can't reburn the firewood.