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Originally posted by HighSchoolWhiteHat
we'll have 1st and 10 from the 9 yard line when all is said and done.
first we have a face mask against the defense in the end zone. runner fumbles from the end zone and ball goes out of bounds at the 3 yard line.
so I have 15 yards face mask from the end of the run which with the fumble is the 3 yard line.
1st and 10 from the 18 yard line.
but wait we have a personal foul on A1.(dead ball)
so Im marking off half the distant to the goal for this penalty and now we have 1st and 10 at the 9 yard line.
now if we have a 5 yard face mask...
we have the fumble at the 3 yard line. 5 yard penalty to the 8yard line. NO FIRST DOWN. then dead ball on A1's personal foul. so we have 3rd and 10 from the 4 yard line.
with a 15 yard face mask we have 1st and 10 from the 8 yard line
with a 5 yard face mask we have 3rd and 10 from the 4 yard line
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I disagree that the 3 yard line is the end of the run (for penalty enforcement purposes). The end of the run is where the runner lost possession of the ball (NF 10-3-3b). Language in the case-book (10.5.2B) seems to back this up as well. 1/10 @ 15.
Obviously the U.C. would then be enforced after the first foul is enforced. The chains would then be set. 1/10 @ 7.5
Just my two cents.