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Originally Posted by commcoach
A4 gets the ball at about mid-post where he is then double teamed by B4 and B3. The ref watching the backcourt blows the whistle as the offensive player shoots the ball as the ball goes in the hoop.
The call: Foul on B3. Basket's no good. 2 shots.
This was the defensive team's first team foul of the quarter, so there could not have been a bonus. I approach the ref asking for an explanation of the call, but he immediately shut the door on me.
It didn't occur to me until after the game, but I'm thinking I maybe should have called a timeout in order to buy some time to get this sorted out by the refs. We are a poor free throw shooting team, so I would've much preferred the basket+1 rather than just the 2 foul shots. If I called the timeout, what could the change have been?
A) Foul counts. Basket counts + 1 free throw?
B) Foul counts. Basket doesn't count. Offensive team's ball on the baseline?
To clarify a few questions posted by others, this is a weekend league in Alberta (surprised to see ref in alberta). In my opinion, A4 was already in the air when the foul was called, obviously without any kind of video or proof you'll have to take my word, so feel free to take it for what it's worth.
To answer how I approached the ref, I felt I was just confused about the call because it didn't seem to make any sense so I was looking for clarification in hopes that if he explains the call, it might not make sense to him either.
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Thanks for the clarifications. The net is that the only times you are going to shoot two shots in this situation is if
a). the player was in his shooting motion (as has been accurately pointed out by others, being in the air is not required)
b). the try was not successful (and the goal was not awarded for goal tending, etc.)
The primary reasons why the shot was not considered to be successful would have included:
a). there was a violation before the release (travel, etc.).
b). the shooting motion had not commenced.
In the case of a), the result would have been two free throws assuming the shooting motion had commenced.
In the case of b), the result would have been a throw-in as you pointed out.