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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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If the player does not have the ball, I believe that the rule demands the call be intentional or flagrant as there is no other choice.
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Nope,if you don't think the elbow was intentional or flagrant,you just call it a common foul. R4-19-2.
[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Dec 23rd, 2002 at 03:51 AM] [/B]
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JR,
My point is that a simple common foul is not among the options given in the first line on page 69.
[/B][/QUOTE]Nevada,my point is that the reference that you are using from P69 refers only to a player with the ball swinging an elbow and making contact.If the player does not have the ball and hits somebody with an elbow,as you stated above,then that statement on P69 simply does not apply.According to rule,you can now call a common foul,an intentional personal foul or a flagrant personal foul-your choice.Your statement above infers that you can't call a common foul on a player without the ball who hits somebody with an elbow,only an intentional or flagrant personal foul.This is not true.See where I'm coming from?