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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 01:56am
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I haven't been around long enough to even qualify for the tourney, so your assumption there was just as wrong. Your implication that my opinion is sour grapes because I suck at this is a mighty big assumption since you have no clue about who I am.
My goodness. Where did I write anything of the sort? I merely commented on what you expressed as an opinion. I wrote nothing at all about your assignments, your potential selection for post-season, or your officiating ability. YOU inferred all of those sentiments. News flash: it's not all about you.
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I don't know MTD either, but while he may not use the same extreme words I did to make a point, he probably doesn't like it either. For the record, assignments are based primarily on votes from our associations (political); Athletic directors (since I friends with a couple, I know how uninformed they are about the officials and their performance)(also political) and the coaches who see us work. (very political). I know quite a few officials who let coaches get away with murder because they don't want it to affect their assignments. That wouldn't make you uncomfortable? In my mind, the only people who should be involved are assignors. But I've only been around for 6 years and don't do enough Varsity games yet to qualify.
I have posted on this very forum several times that having the ADs and coaches involved in the post-season selection process compromises the integrity of the game. I still stand by that position. So if the system is the way that you describe it in your state, then it likely is problematic. Still I believe that the officials who are deserving will find their way there. Afterall, the coaches have great interest in making sure that they get a fair shake at that time of the season and Homer Joe isn't going to be their #1 choice when they know that they must travel.

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BECAUSE I CALLED HIM WHEN THE SECOND SITUATION OCCURRED AND ASKED HIM ABOUT IT SPECIFICALLY.(He was, at the time, also one of my assignors) (Thanks for playing)

The funny part was when he said that any official that would do that was being "overly officious".
So you do have a friend in the system. Good for you. Glad that he agrees with your opinion. I do not. I will note that you didn't bother to respond to the part where I inquired upon what rule basis he would make such a decision. Probably because you are well aware that he doesn't have any.

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Exactly. There is no signifigance to my liability based on who is coaching. If I am liable for something that happens, its more likely I will win the multi state lottery than who the HC is affecting the situation.
Again, it is NOT all about you. Why do you assume that I was talking about YOUR liability? Do you ever consider the school district's point of view, or the AD's? How about the actual Head Coach him/herself?

I was thinking about a polite question to coach/AD along the lines of "Do you know how that would impact your school's insurance policy?" or "Have you okay'd that with the (insert name of state association)?"

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That was your implication.
Nope, you are mistaken about the thought which I was expressing. In the future, please don't try to tell me what I was saying.
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When it happened later that year with the coach in question, there was no new contract. They just said to the Assisstant Coach, you finish the season as HC. He didn't sign a new contract. He didn't get a raise. So therefore, by YOUR logic, if something happened (for the life of me, I could'nt even begin to imagine what it would be---hence the red fish) by your reasoning, I would be liable.
No, but he might find himself in a difficult situation or the school might. Yet, again, this is not all about you. I know that in my area all Head Coaches are required to obtain certification from the state office, and that entails taking a course in which they must learn and demonstrate proficiency in CPR and response to basic emergency medical situations. The state office and the school wants a person with such skills accompanying the team on the bus or at an away site just in case there is a problem. If the person who takes over doesn't have that certification, then the whole purpose of this program has been ruined.
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Your logic is flawed.
I would contend that your reading comprehension is the area of difficulty.
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OR as seems to be the case, based on many of your posts, you're one of those overly officious referees who can't react to anything that isn't literally in the book. You probably yell at cheerleaders when they come on the floor during 30 second timeouts.
Yep, I know and enforce the rules as written. I guess that you don't care for that. For the record, I do not allow the cheerleaders on the floor during 30-second time-outs. Nice to see that you elect to set that rule aside--makes me wonder what else you don't bother to enforce.
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Your arrogant put down of a spelling error I made in a previous thread says a lot more about what an *** you are than how stupid I am.
To set the facts straight your error was made in an earlier post in this thread, not previous one, and mbyron was actually the first to poke fun at you about it. I guess that makes him an *** as well.
Perhaps you should lighten up and learn to take a joke. If you can't even stand our making fun of a spelling mistake of yours, then one would have to wonder how you handle grief from the spectators. Perhaps you put your fingers in your ears as you run up and down the court.
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