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Originally Posted by steveshane67
on a missed base, at what pt in time does it turn from a force out to an appeal play.
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Your question is confused. It's like asking, "at what point in time does a fly ball turn from a catch to a sacrifice?" The answer is: it can be both.
A missed base appeal will be granted whenever a baserunner has failed to touch a base and the defense executes a properly formed appeal.
A force play at a base occurs when a runner is forced to advance to that base by the batter becoming a runner.
So a runner can be forced to advance to a base that he fails to touch. The appeal of that missed base is then both an appeal play and a force play.
In your first play, if R1 is called out on appeal for missing 2B, then R3's run does NOT score. R1 was forced to advance to 2B, so the appeal constitutes a force play.
Compare: R1, R3, two outs. Batter doubles to the RF corner, and both runners score. But R1 misses 3B. The defense appeals, and R1 is called out to end the inning. Does R3's run score?
RULING: Yes. The missed base appeal at 3B was not a force play, since R1 was not forced to advance to 3B. Thus it's a time play: since the out was recorded after R3 crossed the plate, score the run.