What if the ball is on the Trail's side of the court?
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Originally Posted by Mregor
What is trail side of court? We're talking primary coverage area here. It's either in trails primary or leads primary.
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The Trail's side of the court is the side of the court that they are located. This is why the lead is instructed to rotate (move to the Trail's side of the court) in order to get a better angle. If the lead does not rotate, they are not going to see things going on away from the basket or where the ball handler in the post might likely have the ball. In other words the slaps to the arms or the defender coming from the perimeter is likely not going to be seen based on the lead's angle.
You are obviously caught up in the coverage area and not concerned about what you can see from where you are looking.
Or better yet, what if a player coming to defend a shot or the ball comes from the Trial's primary to guard the ball?
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Originally Posted by Mregor
I don't see the point here. If the player is coming from trail primary to defend a shot in the lead's primary, the lead should still have the play on the ball. It's not like the play with the ball originates in the trail's primary and comes into the lead. In that case in my 2-man, if the play originates in trail, the trail takes it all the way to the hoop if it's uninterrupted.
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If that is the case, why do we tell the center or trail in 3 Person to call things in the lane too? Maybe we ask that of them because the Lead might have bodies in front of them? Or better yet, they get straight lined on a play. I am not trying to be funny, but if a defender is directly behind the shooter and pushes through a shooter's back (and the ball is coming from the trail's side of the court), it is likely that the Lead has no angle. I do not care what primary coverage area says, I have officiated this play enough from both the lead and the center position and was glad when an partner made such a call when I do not have an angle.
What if the Lead never rotates to the other side of the court?
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Originally Posted by Mregor
We get to pick our partners here so in that case, I'd find a new partner.
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Why would you find a new partner, because they use the proscribed mechanic? My state does not use pure NF Mechanics and this is an accepted and encouraged mechanic similar to 3 Person because the Lead cannot look across the lane (and correctly see backside play) and call things without a realistic possibility of having people not in front of them or getting straight lined.
The Trail is just supposed to ignore any and all contact because the Lead has this play covered (IYO)
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Originally Posted by Mregor
I was giving some basic philosophy. Obviously the original poster has some questions about when and when not to whistle in another's primary. I gave him some basic information to help him on his way while he progresses as an official and gets more of a feel for the game. It all comes with experience and we've all been there. Referee the defense, have a patient whistle, competitive matchup, don't let traveling be your best call, we have all heard these at one time or another and mostly very early in our learning. But how long did it take to really understand what reffing the defense is? Maybe I'm just slow, but even though I've heard that since day 1, it took me a few years to really comprehend it. Having the ball when it is in your primary coverage area and off-ball (not necesarily in your PCA) when the ball is not in your PCA, is a good basic mechanic to build on.
Mregor
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I have heard a lot of things that does not mean everyone subscribes to them, especially the "Don't let traveling become your best call." For one that alone is gone by the waist side because at the college level we are told to get the travels left and right. There are a lot of things I have heard people say over the years, but that does not mean we still follow them all. And the idea that the Lead can call everything correctly in their primary or on the edges of their primary is long gone. And the reason I feel this position has changed, because with 3 Person being worked and there is a much smaller coverage area for the lead, it is still hard for an official to see certain things on the back side. This is why we say that if the center has a play going to the basket, they likely have a better look at the entire play than the lead. And this is why also we ask the lead to rotate to the other side (the game has not changed because you have 1 more official) to get a better look at the post.
Now that never took me a long time to understand. It is the same game, you are just officiating it with one less official and the angles do not automatically change either.
Peace