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Old Thu Jun 11, 2009, 02:22pm
jwwashburn jwwashburn is offline
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Joe, you can justify your actions to make yourself feel less guilt, and that is what I perceive from all your comments. Like I stated before, I do not know you personally and will not judge you personally, But my perception to this is a simple statement you made to the young ump. "Nope, too late. You called him safe." Then you ignored him and jogged off. To me this is just a flat lie.


A flat lie would have been something completely different and you know it. I made a flippant comment and I actually did not expect him to pay attention.

So, again perception. My perception of this OP is that you are trying to justify your actions in this situation by gaining some support from the members here. Otherwise, why would you post this situation?

Why? For fun. I have fun with the ridiculous piety from some here. I have had fun with the embarrassing comments people have made.

But, as you can tell you keep getting in deeper and keep trying to justify your actions. Some questions one should be asking oneself is...What did your young players learn from this? What was their perception on how the coach handled it? Can you tell them honestly without a doubt that you handled it correctly?

Again. My young players did not learn anything from it because they did not know about the comment that the bU made or the one that I made. They learned that sometimes umpires make inexplicably awful calls and the game goes on and we do not get an explanation. they have learned throughout the season that their coaches do not argue with umpires. They have learned they they will not, either. As for how I handled it...I think the result would have been the same if I had not made the flippant comment but just left, instead. Maybe I should have not made the sarcastic remark...but it was a small deal, not a big one.

How do you instill trust and honestly and team work and unity amoung the players and coaches? I carry some guilt from some of my past actions like yelling at a ref and getting tossed out of a gym in a youth basketball game 7 years ago. I explained to my wife my actions to gain support and to justify what I did and she quickly and directly told me I was wrong and you embarrased yourself and your family. My youngest boy has never forgotten that and I never will either. I had to ask him to forgive me and to explain to him how wrong I was. Humble pie, you bet. Maybe you should explain this situation to your spouse or close friend and see what feedback you get. Can't hurt anymore than what you have already received from these posts.

Ok, I am glad you learned from your explosion in a gym. I did not do anything like what you did. This was not that. this was a smart-alleck flippant remark that only the BU and I heard. I have discussed this with several friends(umpires and not) the most stern rebuke I got was: Well, it probably would have been better if you had just said nothing.

I think that is right. It probably would have been perfect if I had said nothing...but some folks here would not have been satisfied with that! Some people think I should help the umpire call my guy out. That is just insane.

Last edited by jwwashburn; Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 02:25pm.