[steveshane67]

Im gonna tackle this in order of the posts made

Irishmafia

"Again, THE BOX IS ALWAYS THERE! Just because you cannot see it does not negate the rule."

no need to yell

"If the batter stepped out of the box, how did he end up on 1B?"

this isnt some magical world where once your foot lands outside the batters box, you lose all ability to hit the ball, obviously the ump reversed his decision to declare it a dead ball. i dont know how that wasnt 100% clear from the initial post


lilblueasa

"The batter's box is a designated part of the field. ALWAYS."

yes, we know, thats already been established 2 times, no need to beat a dead horse

"How did the ball get to the outfielder? I'm assuming the batter hit the ball to the outfield?"

that must have required a giant leap in your deductive reasoning skills

"And the umpires are giving the runners two bases....did the ball get thrown into dead ball territory?"

no, the ump decided to award the runners what bases they would have obtained if the ump said nothing about the batter being out of the batters box. once again, i dont know how that wasnt 100% clear from the initial post

"Why would the batter be given first base when he was declared out for being out of the batter's box?"

did you even read the post? the ump decided he was wrong in saying the batter was out of the box, so he corrected his mistake as best he thought he could.


Steve M

"A complaint or whine is not an appeal. An appeal is defined by the rule book of the sanctioning body that you and the league are sanctioned under."

thanks for the clarification, i think we all were confused by this one.


Irish mafia

"the home plate ump initially thought the batter had stepped out of the batters box (ie since there was no painted lines, thought he was too far towards the pitcher when he hit the ball).

Yeah, we all got that."

no, 2 previous posters did not understand this point, as demonstrated earlier in my post

"A rec league in a prison, imagine that. I doubt it was a tournament team"

that one Ill take the blame for. I thought inmates might have been slang for something else, i didnt know he literally meant it was a game in a prison. Side note, what prison has softball games with mutliple umpires, and with "spectators" who care enough about a play to post a question about it online??? What prison is this, if I ever go to jail, I want to go there.


Steve M

"To reverse that later is just plain wrong."

this is where I bet the majority of the ppl on here would disagree with me. I dont care what level of play or sport, the umpires/referees job is to get the call correct. If they initially made a wrong call, be a man, admit you messed up, and fix it as best as possible.

"You've got several folks here who umpire a lot of slow pitch and I suspect they take great exception to that. "

I understand the ppl on here are very knowledgable and have been doing this a long time. That was more a reflection of the certified ASA umpires that have umped games I play in, most of them dont even know basic rules. I could go through a litany of rules/calls they have botched severly. Im sure there are good umpires out there, just not many doing slow pitch softball.