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Old Tue May 26, 2009, 08:35am
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Another simultaneous snap foul

Another one that commonly confuses officials, around here anyway is the illegal formation foul. A formation is only illegal when the ball is snapped, therefore it is a simultaneous with the snap - live ball, foul. Around here I think officials get confused because the foul signal is the same as for a false start, so they kill it.

In a conversation with one of the younger officials this past fall he asked me, "Why not just go ahead and kill it since the play can't stand anyway?" Well, if the defense gets a sack they'll likely decline the penalty, or if there is a change of possession, or if the defense makes it a double foul, then the offense gets saved the yardage...ya know all of those reasons why no live-ball foul causes the ball to become dead.

Things you can blow dead prior to the snap: (FEDUI)
False Start
Encroachment
Delay of Game
USC
Illegal Substitution (Replaced player not leaving immediately aka 12 men in the huddle, player leaves the field on wrong line)

Each of those is a foul in itself without relation to a snap, that is what makes them dead ball fouls.
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