Most coast to coast plays I've seen end near the rim.
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Originally Posted by just another ref
Just because a player has "gathered" the ball, (ended the dribble) is he always entitled to two shots if he heaves up a try after getting fouled?
I say no.
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Concur (to a point) but let be perfectly clear as you're making too much out of this sitch.
A1 gathers the ball outside the 28 ft line after walking the ball into the f/c & heaves it up after a whistle for hand checking is NOT gonna get you to the line if I'm the calling official.
In a coast to coast play (as previously described) North/South to the rim play, I believe the player has gathered to alight. Not to avoid being trapped or because of losing the ball. His feet never stopped, there was progression to the bucket, he gathered & then came contact... it was all in stride.
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
In the OP, the player "took two steps" -- so that's traveling
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No sir, forgive me for my poor verbage but please believe me when I say A1 did not exceed the prescribed limits.
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
I agree that there can (and often needs to be) a "patient whistle" on plays similar to the OP.
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I think the timing of the whistle was a big factor in the officials decision for the throw in. There was contact & there was a whistle almost immediately.
Had there been patience, it would have been no doubt he was going up.
I think some verbal communication like, (tweet) "no shot" or (tweet) "going up" instead of (tweet) holding up a fist and allowing the play to finish, then saying "endline" would've helped as well.
Personally, I try to allow them get to the rim after (the
*slap* on the arm type of contact occurs---
you know, sounds worse than what it was) then come back & get it if they miss.
Lets me know I did a good job on that play when all the defensive players/fans/coaches (who thought they got away with one) get upset that it was such a LATE call