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Originally posted by Nevadaref
BktBallRef and I would request some opinions of others on the penalty for playing with only 4 when you have others available.
Please consider casebook play 10.1.9
The crux of our debate seems to be two-fold:
1. When should the T be called, if at all?
2. What is the strict rule and what is the practice?
BktBallRef please reply to this post and give your answers to these questions:
1. Team A has a throw-in after a time-out. Team A is ready, team B is still at their bench after both horns. Official gives A1 the ball and he passes it in to A2 who scores. Team B now has only 4 players run out onto the court. B1 inbounds the ball to B2 who proceeds up the court. At this time B5 is still on the bench and remains there. He does not enter the court or even go to the table.
If my understanding of your opinion is correct, you would not call a T and claim that team B has not gained an advantage by playing a man down. Is that correct?
I would call the T at this point for 10-1-9. While I agree that they have not gained an advantage, they clearly have violated a rule and I think that you would be wrong not to enforce it.
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No T. There is no penalty for *this* infraction.
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2. During play B2 run to the team bench and sits down. The game continues and his team is on defense. Team A makes to immediate attempt to score, but is just passing the ball around.
I call a T for 10-3-4. Would you have no advantage and play on?
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Team A is not moving the ball forward or attempting to
score? This I most likely treat as an injury timeout,
especially if B2 limped, hobbled, crawled, or somehow
managed to just barely make it to the bench.
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3. The Hoosiers movie. A5 fouls out. Coach Gene Hackman tells you, "My team is on the floor." He has only 4 on the court and team member A6 is healthy and eligible on his bench.
I inform him that he may either play A6 or forfeit the game. Would you allow them to play with 4 as it is certainly not to their advantage?
Hopefully, these plays will help clarify our positions on this rule and make for a better debate.
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Me? If this happens to me I'm going to pull my massive
sword out and in a single blow separate his head from
his neck, muscles bulging, long blondish hair blowing in the
wind, very "Conan the Barbarian". Hey, this is my post,
I'll use the movie I want, thank you very much. And after
the game Hale Berry, Anna Kournikova & I are going out for
some brownpops.