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A good rule of thumb...if the player is going toward the basket and has both hands on the ball - they are in the act of shooting...if the post player hasn't gotten both hands to the ball yet (on that spin move) then they were still dribbling...where the ball is at height-wise really doesn't matter - in other words, just because the post player has the ball at waist height as they start to bring it up does not negate the fact that they have "started their usual throwing motion"...
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