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Originally posted by rainmaker
Jeff-- Where DO you ref, then? I guess I'm confused.
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Juulie, I do not and never have worked in a small area. I grew up in Western Illinois and moved to a Suburb of Chicago almost 4 years ago. I have never stopped officiating where I began my career and literally work in all types of places throughout the state. I work over 20 conferences from South of Springfield to the Wisconsin/Illinois boarder.
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Originally posted by rainmaker
If you had read what I just wrote, you will see that I said I specifically will not T for the quiet under the breath kind of stuff. And only T if it's "loud enough to hear in the second row." I can't believe it would play in Peoria, frankly. I know people who live in rural Indiana and Illinois--lots of them. They would not find this acceptable. Even many inner-city folk here in Portland would be horrified if I let it go, when it's loud enough to hear in the second row. In your area, apparently, this is not the case. Great. I would expect that most of the rest of the country is more like Portland.
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I do not think we ever discussed how loud anyone cursed. As a matter of fact, that never was an issue in this discussion. Obviously if someone in the second row of a very loud gym hears something, that is obvious and can be dealt with appropriately. Not a single person would complain or could complain with a straight face. But usually (at least in my experience) most players and even coaches do not curse loud enough so that the second row can hear them. Participants are usually smart enough not to let the entire world here them. If you give a T and you were the only person that hears them, especially not in a certain context. Just like everything else we should call, if no one else knows it but you, it might not be the best call to make. Especially with something that has such a harsh penalty like ejection.
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Originally posted by rainmaker
I never said my "list" was a list of 100% responses. There are about 5 things on my list where I will "automatically give a T if..." Other items on the list have the word "if" in them. One item is not so much a word or collection of words as a concept, "taunting". You weren't overly officious to talk to some guys about some questionable language, and I'm not overly officious to decide ahead of time about certain responses to certain situations.
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Juulie, this is not the conversation about the lists. That was another conversation.
Peace