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Originally Posted by kylejt
Would it really be a fourth out, or just adjusting how that third out was made? Force, after the appeal, as opposed to a timing play tag.
Now for the real question: After you've tagged the runner out, could you tag him again for the appeal of the missed base? I know you could step on the bag, but could you tag that retired runner?
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An "advantageous 4th out" is indeed used to replace or supercede what had been the 3rd out. The crucial point is that you would count the 4th out only where it is advantageous for the defense, as when it prevents a run from counting.
A missed base appeal can be made by tagging the missed base or the runner, so yes, you could tag the runner twice. The second tag, however, must be an obvious appeal: someone has to be saying "he missed second!" or some such before I'll grant the appeal.