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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
The L anticipated the call. He's two steps onto the floor before the defender even hits the ground. I don't agree with the charge. Defender is still sliding in front of him when contact is made.
Even so, Floyd's an idiot. The Pac-10 needs to sit him down a game.
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Originally Posted by btaylor64
yes it is illegal if he has yet to establish guarding position and then come in sliding and didn't beat the offensive player to the spot.
Badnewsref,
I would disagree with you in the mechanics of this play. The lead has the best look at the secondary defender and can better assess the lateral movement of the defender than the slot, although i still believe the referee got the play wrong.
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I tend to agree with both of your assessments of the play. An argument can be made for a PC foul as well but I think it was a block.
This is why I enjoy coming on this forum and discuss plays and philosophies with other officials.
A few of my other colleagues saw the play last night and we discussed the entire dichotomy of it all (please bare with me).
Here is another view of the incident from a different angle:
http://palestra.net/videos/play/21409
Officials in the Pac10 are given a rating by the coaches (right or wrong whether they should do this is entirely for another discussion). Through a reliable source, the coaches rating is about 30-40% of the conference ranking of the official. That is a huge chunk of an official's grade. The higher the grade, the more games you get (ie: more money). Officials do not want to be marked down and to me, they let Floyd get away with too much even prior to the block/charge play. Floyd was out of the coaching box multiple times during the game and it was not addressed. It was obvious the officials were trying to appease Floyd rather than deal with him. If you address Floyd, he will mark you down.
It also appeared to me that David Hall did not do enough to protect Randy Mcall from Floyd. As the "R" on the game, he should never had let Floyd even get close to Mcall when he was at halfcourt in the first place. Mcall issues the 2nd T as Floyd walks away. Mcall made a mistake of going to the table to report the T when Floyd was still yelling at Hall and Dick Cartmell. Hall then goes to the table and leaves Cartmell alone to deal with a yelling Floyd as Mcall tries to walk away. Floyd then walks back to Hall who is at the table. During the tirade, Hall is shown pointing at Mcall not once but
TWICE; I don't know what was said but if I saw my partner pointing at me while a coach was yelling, I would be furious.
Hall has his hand on Floyd's waist to calm him down in a friendly manner.
In my opinion, Hall should not have done anything or even been near the table until the situation with Floyd was addressed. Cartmell did the best he could to separate Floyd from Mcall but Hall (as the R) should've been right there as well.
To his credit, (right or wrong) Hall made a tough call against USC. It just appeared to me after the call, Hall was doing all he could to keep his high rating.